tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post1730498363854706419..comments2024-03-28T20:13:21.900-06:00Comments on The Blog Fodder: Climate Change - Understanding Global Temperature CalculationsThe Blog Fodderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-58668287993735662202015-11-26T16:02:39.545-06:002015-11-26T16:02:39.545-06:00I do not write very clearly many times. I am skep...I do not write very clearly many times. I am skeptical but trying to learn. Canadian climate scientists have just updated their website with a whole bunch of stuff now that they are allowed to talk to the public again. I am reading some of it.The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-68131543154764482332015-11-26T14:51:57.524-06:002015-11-26T14:51:57.524-06:00I misunderstood — sorry.I misunderstood — sorry.Raven Onthillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06634556869209594389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-92104873379873590482015-11-22T17:14:15.887-06:002015-11-22T17:14:15.887-06:00Thanks for your confidence.
The new discoveries ...Thanks for your confidence. <br /><br />The new discoveries in evolution are details on the main story, which is settled. Likewise, the fact that human-made carbon dioxide is causing significant global warming is settled. The exact effects on glaciers and deserts, food and disease have not been fully worked out. <br /><br />I'm not entirely happy with the IPCC site. See what you think.<br /><Cheryl Roferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082102629165547210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-88783242302463632422015-11-22T03:40:05.137-06:002015-11-22T03:40:05.137-06:00Also, thank you for your comments and patience.Also, thank you for your comments and patience.The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-20175293672931672792015-11-22T03:39:16.874-06:002015-11-22T03:39:16.874-06:00If someone like you with experience in complex mod...If someone like you with experience in complex modeling thinks that the three main models used to predict the effect of GHG on global temperatures are reasonably good then I will accept that. Thank you.<br />I have heard it said that evolution is a settled science but they are coming up with new discoveries all the time. So I guess then the general idea of evolution is settled but the details The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-38885283516716274192015-11-22T03:27:45.465-06:002015-11-22T03:27:45.465-06:00Agree totally. Dr Cowtan's videos show that cl...Agree totally. Dr Cowtan's videos show that clearly.The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-4700990209445224282015-11-22T03:26:50.138-06:002015-11-22T03:26:50.138-06:00Exactly my point as well. Big Hydrocarbon must lo...Exactly my point as well. Big Hydrocarbon must love the Climate Change debate as we are arguing about CO2 while they destroy the planet with activities and pollutants that we KNOW about and that need to be controlled/stopped.The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-69777969275294104702015-11-22T03:22:35.143-06:002015-11-22T03:22:35.143-06:00That is my take on it too, though I believe we are...That is my take on it too, though I believe we are contributing but how much (possibly a great deal) and how it interacts are my questions.The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-75600352520320466992015-11-21T11:40:05.607-06:002015-11-21T11:40:05.607-06:00It's possible to say that the debate is settle...It's possible to say that the debate is settled and still have it science. The debate is settled on the role of cigarette smoking in lung cancer. The debate (which went up until the 1960s) is settled on continental drift. Science settles some of these questions and moves on to others. That human use of fossil fuels is causing global temperatures to rise at an unprecedented rate is settled Cheryl Roferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082102629165547210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-76928154271527829582015-11-21T11:30:44.360-06:002015-11-21T11:30:44.360-06:00...but let's not lose sight of the main issue:......but let's not lose sight of the main issue: cleaning up our emissions will benefit everybody, regardless of whether the emissions have any effect on global temperatures. I like breathing clean air and drinking clean water. I kinda suspect future generations might like that, too.Diane Hendershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07563115165301223420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-47779993494629198082015-11-21T11:08:51.821-06:002015-11-21T11:08:51.821-06:00I'm agnostic on the topic of climate change as...I'm agnostic on the topic of climate change as a direct result of human activities. When the emotional hyperbole and political machinations are stripped away, the only quantifiable data we have is that there is currently a measurable warming trend in global temperatures. The problem is that we only have verifiable temperature data from a comparatively miniscule portion of the earth's Diane Hendershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07563115165301223420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-89110621199400683712015-11-21T08:58:18.650-06:002015-11-21T08:58:18.650-06:00Agree with your first paragraph which is why I wro...Agree with your first paragraph which is why I wrote the blog. Dr Cowtan's videos explain it very clearly.<br />As to the second paragraph, I expect you are right. Scientists tend to be conservative as they like their conclusions to be based on fact not hyperbole. Shouting the sky is falling may be exciting but if you don't have the data to back it up then you are not a scientist, you The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-33014067846787649042015-11-21T08:52:49.715-06:002015-11-21T08:52:49.715-06:00Agree 15 years is an old article but it is hard to...Agree 15 years is an old article but it is hard to find articles written in language I can understand that don't shriek at me for being a Nazi Holocaust denier for asking a question. If "the debate is settled" then it isn't science. We will be lucky to know in a hundred years answers to today's questions. There is no question that the climate is changing and certainly The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-80277102855139650192015-11-21T07:54:30.443-06:002015-11-21T07:54:30.443-06:00Tweet, showing size of corrections:
pic.twitter....Tweet, showing size of corrections: <br /><br /><a href="https://t.co/xQ1D8pk5cV" rel="nofollow">pic.twitter.com/xQ1D8pk5cV</a><br /><br />They are minuscule.Raven Onthillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06634556869209594389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-66514738642406621032015-11-21T07:38:27.817-06:002015-11-21T07:38:27.817-06:00I suggest looking at up to date material rather th...I suggest looking at up to date material rather than material from 15 years ago. Modeling has come a long way since then, along with much of the other data on global warming that is collected. <br /><br />The international body that has the greatest overview on such things is the <a href="http://www.ipcc.ch/" rel="nofollow">Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.</a> Their writeups are Cheryl Roferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082102629165547210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-69620763636643236202015-11-21T05:06:19.399-06:002015-11-21T05:06:19.399-06:00Dr Cowtan is not critical of climate change, not e...Dr Cowtan is not critical of climate change, not even anthrogenic, regardless of his qualifications. If you listened to the videos he is in fact responding to the Telegraph article, supporting NOAA and others who adjust temperature data of individual weather stations. I have done enough research myself in a previous life to know about outliers, missing data, etc so his explanations were quite The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-9086326376677080352015-11-21T04:50:00.374-06:002015-11-21T04:50:00.374-06:00It is a toss up whether we will kill each other fi...It is a toss up whether we will kill each other first or whether nature in one form or another will do it for us. We haven't had a really good disease outbreak since the 14th century.The Blog Fodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441978691701289074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-10620696215226468172015-11-21T01:31:52.982-06:002015-11-21T01:31:52.982-06:00Cached Google post.
Debunking: "Three statio...Cached <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:b5tuIpUSHQgJ:www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2015/02/noise-on-the-telegraph/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us" rel="nofollow">Google post</a>.<br /><br />Debunking: "Three stations. For comparison, global temperature collections contain thousands of stations. CRUTEM contains 4,842 quality stations and Raven Onthillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06634556869209594389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-56210190923957603842015-11-20T19:54:36.027-06:002015-11-20T19:54:36.027-06:00Dr. Cowtan, regardless of his abilities as a chemi...Dr. Cowtan, regardless of his abilities as a chemist and crystallographer, is not a climatologist. Most of the scientists critical of climate change any more are either in another field or in the pay of the fossil fuel energy industry. A link that responds that piece is here: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2015/02/noise-on-the-telegraph/, but it appears the site is under attack, Raven Onthillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06634556869209594389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689245642139665514.post-69212872676671548422015-11-20T16:32:49.457-06:002015-11-20T16:32:49.457-06:00Nature just has to kill a bunch of us to put thing...Nature just has to kill a bunch of us to put things in balance again. BBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.com